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Shalom Sis Y,
This is a real threat to man and beast. Pray you have sounded the warning in time to avert a catastrophe .Your work may prove to be a gift. May it not lack for those ears that hear. What can I do to help? This is a parallel work I have assembled.
What is all this hubbub about GMProducts?

G.M. (Genetically Modified) is a method to create products that are genetically altered in the laboratory. These are patented products and in the biblical sense, are not food. The prohibition is against what in Hebrew is called 'Kilayim'. (Lev.19:19)

What in the world could be wrong with them?

If HIS word is not enough proof for you, lets consider other evidence.

This wonderful magic of camouflage.

The neighborhood supermarket is overflowing with these products. Because of the political clout of the giant international corporations that profit from these patented products, labeling has not been deemed necessary. The big beautiful red tomato you see in the produce cart is probably NOT a true tomato but only looks and tastes like what we need for food.

The good people who are in the food business are aware of the reasons people choose to buy their products. The old adage which is popular in these circles, is:

"people eat with their eyes first".

The producer who can deliver the biggest, reddest unspotted tomato will own the market. This holds true with every sort of product whether it is apples, zucchini, hamburger or borscht.

The alchemy delivered by the well financed laboratory provides this latest wrinkle in creative packaging. Making it look 'perfect' to the consumer is as important as our choosing the most enticing bait when we set out to catch a rat. (What note do we take of the nutritional benefits of said bait?)

These folks are just as adept at disguising their products as they are handy at verbal deception.

An inside report states:

".....almost all of the respondents indicated that they had observed some level of transgene inaction. Many respondents indicated that most cases of transgene inactivation never reach the literature."

This is a fine example of the ancient art of semantic deceit.

Restated in honest English it would read:

".... most farmers who raised Genetically Modified products found them to actively contaminate their otherwise healthy food crops. These hard facts were never reported in the industry literature."

It seems that hiding an ugly reality under what appears to be a seemingly healthy cover is what these geneticists and their lackey press do best.

What is this that is called "transgenic contamination"?

Here again, this is insider jargon that means a confirmed and spreading agricultural disaster. GMProducts have been cross breeding with not only healthy food crops but with weeds. These Super Weeds have gained this manufactured 'inherent' immunity to normal herbicides. The weeds will win because they cannot be successfully controlled and will choke out the healthy food crops.

This is a new and unusual threat to our food chain and will be able to grow exponentially as long as it is ignored. For you in Yorba Linda this means it grows at an ever accelerating rate.

Yeri...

what do you mean by 'His word is not enough proof for you'?  what are you
using for your support of "His word"?
:)dee

That is so discusting!!!!  I sent this to everyone on my list!!!!!!!!  Ann

Shalom Dear dee,
Thanks for checkin' iss out:

Lev 19:19
19 "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
(NIV)

Deut 22:9
9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
(KJV)

is this sufficient? I believe further study into the Hebrew words will more than confirm this allegation.
Yeri

Gentlemen??

What a bunch of hogwash!

Do you really believe that Abraham and his sons, for example, did not
practice genetic engineering?  Do you believe that he did NOT take the
best of the best of his sheep for reproduction in order to make his
sheep better?

Do you really believe that the early farmers of Israel and Judah and
Samaria, for example, did NOT save the largest and best grains of
cereals for the next year's plantings? Of course they did and practiced
genetic engineering in the process.

How, for example, do you think the American prehistory Indians were able
to take a one inch long ear of corn and turn it into the corn, or maize,
that we know today. By genetic engineering.

It is amazing how many people are against genetic engineering but want
the world's people to be fed. With no increase in arable land the only
way to increase production is thru genetic engineering.

Grow up and get some good common sense.

Thomas H. Roach

Shalom, your profound report prompted my to explore the topic of mingled seed--and I discovered that this prohibition is linked to the donning of tallit/tzitzit!

Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: [thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed]: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee. -Lev 19:19

Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together. Thou shalt make thee fringes upon the four quarters of thy vesture, wherewith thou coverest thyself.  -Deut 22:11-12

And it shall be unto you for a fringe, [that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD], and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: -Numbers 15:39

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that [I will send a famine in the land], not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.  -Amos 8:11-12

Shalom, shalom,

Barth M. Lindemann

EXCELLENT! I love it! We do really need to be careful about what we are
putting into our bodies and the bodies of our family. I happen to believe that the
vast majority of these diseases, cancers, and syndromes we now see are a
result of our dysfunctional lifestyle. We're starving and we don't even realize it,
because our diets are so nutritionally deficient. I was reading yesterday, it
has been found that Organic produce has MORe nutriative value than
conventionally grown produce (IE Frankenfood) thought the FF (for short) may look
prettier and have much larger yields, it's nutrients are diluted. A co-op sounds
VERY good. I wonder if there is such a thing as a nationwide co-op. Perhaps we
should look into forming one if not.
Thanks for sending that YahChannah!! :-)
~Nakia

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      To: brethren@qumran.com
    Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:41 AM


    I am upset by all this. It is very hard to go to the store and buy anything fit for human comsumption. I've banned canola oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated oils, rapeseed oil, just to name a few. I try not to buy any beef or chicken, pork has always been out. I don't drink milk, I now use organic rice milk but I'm sure there is probably something wrong with that. As for fresh fruits and vegetables I always try to buy organic but I've heard some bad things about that too. I wish I had a solution to solve these problems because it's so hard to go shopping. When I come home from shopping my husband says there's nothing to eat. That's because everything I pick up I can't bring myself to feed it to my family. If you have any suggestions, and certain places that are better to shop at, I would appreciate it. I pregnant right now and I'm trying to make sure I eat right. I'm ready to join the fight so if there is anything I can do let me know. Thank you, Michelle

     To: Milly
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:47 PM
  Subject: Re: Foods


  Shalom Michelle,
   The response to this problem has been encouraging. You ask for a solution but all we can offer at this juncture is the one we found 11 years ago. We bought a small farm and began raising our own food. We both are disabled and these last few years have taken a heavy toll on are ability to utilize these 50 ac effectively. Even our small garden has been given over to weeds. It is so sad to see this good earth laying fallow. About a year ago we came to see that the dreams we had of clean foods and a Torah obedient community were beyond our reach. From time to time there are prospects for restoration but as yet to no avail. We pray every day for young people who know sweat is the only equity to come and join with us but the whole culture is flowing the opposite direction and no one really seems to want to make that kind of commitment. Our children and now our grandchildren see only the glitter of what seems to be gold. They see us as just out of it...and really we are...Pray for two old dreamers, ok. The only other option that I can see is finding enough people who want to eat real food and having it shipped in from over seas. That would be fine except for scale. We would need 10,000 families who were  willing to order, wait and pay a premium price. There are suppliers who now are raising clean food in this country but not one of them has responded to this request as yet. We must have faith in YHWH, He does know best.
  Praise Him! HalleluYah about your developing baby!!! 
YeriYah

I'm not sure where you live but maybe some of the people that have responded can help you sow the land. I would be more than happy to help if I'm close. It's sad to see that none of your family had the same dreams as you. My husband and I have thought of buying land and growing our own. He says thats the only way to be sure of what your eating. He tried to get some of his family interested but like you, his family has their own ideas and just recently bought houses in the city. We are in the process of selling our house but haven't had any offers yet. Prayerfully we hope to sell soon.
Where would you import the food from?...Milly

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To: Milly
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Foods


Shalom again Milly,
    We live in the northern part of Arkansas in the Ozarks. I hope that is close to you folks. Importing grains and produce from Europe Via air freight might prove possible but distribution state side might be unhandy. We have access to a freezer van but that would prove costly on trips over a hundred miles. If we were able to find a kosher butcher we have a contact in Texas who raises prime grass fed beef. I should get back in touch with them but do not want to make big plans and not deliver orders. What we seem to be up against at this time is finding the scope of the need (demand) and when we do filling it would be the next order of business.
Praying for people to wake up and begin obeying YHWH. If that happens we will have many people to serve.
Love from YahChannah and I....Yeri..

From Raine via e-mail

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I have yet to see any information about gmf harming anyone. Sure, I can see the harmful effects it could have on farming. That should be looked into....SW

SW wrote: I have yet to see any information about gmf harming anyone.

Raine replies: Is it your opinion that GMOs are okay?
Shalom,
Raine

"Let your food be your medicine and let your medicine be your food."

-- Hippocrates

SW Replies
I reaffirm what I said previously. This has been done by farmers for
hundreds (thousands) of years. Discovering the best crop, altering it
for specific adaptations.  Has anyone been harmed in the process? No!
A person with a food allergy does not count in this, because it is
their body rejecting the food, not the food harming the body. Nothing
is pure anymore. Except maybe if you grow your own food. But even
then, the seeds could be from altered crops. California feeds the
world. If a tomato couldn't last 3 days in contianment to ship half
way around the world, what would you say then? My point is this mass
fear is unwarranted.

Shalom SW,

Isn't a farmer just one phase of our modern food gathering and distribution system?

Consider this parallel for a moment;

the method designed by YHWH to recycle and purify our water is accomplished via a marvelous evaporation process. The water we use is the same water that was here from before time was counted. The fecal matter and accompanying bacterial contamination would have rendered all water polluted to the point of poison thousands of years ago. This process is stable, secure and very economical because the designer is a bit smarter than the average bleary eyed beer drinker.

 Now consider the problem of drought. Much of the world has been rendered fallow because of the lack of rain( the result of insufficient ocean evaporation). People are starving because of the inability of those regions to produce food crops. So if we should  find a way to chemically or atomically alter the water molecule to hasten the ability of evaporation and implement it, then, If the effect of this alteration would render the water fine for crops making the deserts bloom... but this new water was found unfit for human consumption, would you deem this the problem of the local water works? Why wouldn't laying the GMPRODUCTS contamination problem on the farmer be just as ludicrous. Altered forms of food has been shown to be crossing with natural foods contaminating our whole food supply, do we arrest farmers for what ADM and their ilk has foisted on us?

SW, you may see this as having no victims but how do you know that the ADD (attention deficit disorder) or the spread of Parkinson's in young people or the rise in early onset dementia are not results of the chemical roulette we're playing?

YHWH designed things very well, why do you think mortal man can do better than He has?

...Yeri...

From Raine via e-mail

Organics for Health
A Chapter from the Independent Science Report, The Case for a GM-Free Sustainable World www.indsp.org

Here's some of the evidence that Sir John Krebs, Head of UK's Food Standards Agency refuses to acknowledge in his persistent denigration of organic agriculture.
Less chemical residues
A comprehensive Soil Association review of scientific research has shown that, on average, organic food is better for us than non-organic food [1]. First, it is safer, as organic farming prohibits routine pesticide and herbicide use, so chemical residues are rarely found. In contrast, non-organic food is likely to be contaminated with residues that often occur in potentially dangerous combinations. The British Society for Allergy, Environmental and Nutritional Medicine states on the back cover of the report: "We have long believed the micronutrient deficiencies common in our patients have their roots in the mineral-depletion of soils by intensive agriculture, and suspect that pesticide exposures are contributing to the alarming rise in allergies and other illnesses" (italics added).

The negative effects of pesticides on health include neurotoxicity, disruption of the endocrine system, carcinogenicity and immune system suppression. The impacts of dietary exposure to pesticide residues at levels typically found in and on food are less easy to establish, but a precautionary approach is necessary. While there are recommended safety levels for pesticides, the UK government's own tests have shown that average residue levels on foods may be under-reported.

Research has also suggested that pesticide exposure affects male reproductive function, resulting in decreased fertilising ability of the sperm and reduced fertilisation rates [2]. Correspondingly, members of a Danish organic farmers' association, whose intake of organic dairy products was at least 50% of total intake of dairy products, had high sperm density [3]. In another study, sperm concentration was 43.1% higher among men eating organically produced food [4].

Children, in particular, may stand to benefit from organic food. Scientists monitored preschool children in Seattle, Washington to assess their exposure to organophosphorus (OP) pesticide from diet [5]. The total dimethyl metabolite concentration was approximately six times higher for children with conventional diets than those with organic diets. The calculated dose estimates suggest that consumption of organic fruits, vegetables and juice can reduce children's exposure levels from above to below the US Environmental Protection Agency's guidelines, thereby shifting exposures from a range of uncertain risk to a range of negligible risk. The study concluded that consumption of organic produce could be a relatively simple way for parents to reduce children's exposure to OP pesticides.
Healthier and more nutritious
Additionally, organic food production bans the use of artificial food additives such as hydrogenated fats, phosphoric acid, aspartame and monosodium glutamate, which have been linked to health problems as diverse as heart disease, osteoporosis, migraines and hyperactivity [1].

Furthermore, while plants extract a wide range of minerals from the soil, artificial fertilisers replace only a few principal minerals. There is a clear long-term decline in the trace mineral content of fruit and vegetables, and the influence of farming practices needs to be investigated more thoroughly. The Soil Association review [1] found that on average, organic food has higher vitamin C, higher mineral levels and higher phytonutrients - plant compounds that can fight cancer (see later) - than conventional food.

Conventional produce also tends to contain more water than organic produce, which contains more dry matter (on average, 20% more) for a given total weight [1]. Thus, the higher cost of fresh organic produce is partly offset by purchasers of conventional produce paying for the extra weight of water and getting only 83% of the nutrients, on average, available in organic produce. The higher water content also tends to dilute nutrient content.

Tests with people and animals eating organic food show it makes a real difference to health, and alternative cancer therapies have achieved good results relying on the exclusive consumption of organic food. The review [1] cites recent clinical evidence from doctors and nutritionists administering "alternative" cancer treatments, who have observed that a completely organic diet is essential for a successful outcome. Nutritional cancer therapies avoid pollutants and toxins as much as possible, and promote exclusive consumption of organically grown foods and increases in nutrient intakes. Animal feeding trials have also demonstrated better reproductive health, better growth, and better recovery from illness.

A literature review of 41 studies and 1 240 comparisons [6] found statistically significant differences in the nutrient content of organic and conventional crops. This was attributed primarily to differences in soil fertility management and its effects on soil ecology and plant metabolism. Organic crops contained significantly more nutrients -vitamin C, iron, magnesium and phosphorus - and significantly less nitrates (a toxic compound) than conventional crops. There were non-significant trends showing less protein in organic crops. However, organic crops were of a better quality and had higher content of nutritionally significant minerals, with lower amounts of some heavy metals compared to conventional ones.
Helping fight cancer
Plant phenolics (flavonoids) are plant secondary metabolites thought to protect plants against insect predation, bacterial and fungal infection and photo-oxidation. These plant chemicals have been found to be effective in preventing cancer and heart disease, and to combat age-related neurological dysfunctions. A recent scientific paper [7, 8] compared the total phenolic (TP) content of marionberries, strawberries and corn grown by organic and other sustainable methods with conventional agricultural practices. Statistically higher levels of TPs were consistently found in organically and sustainably grown foods as compared to those produced by conventional agriculture.

An earlier study comparing antioxidant compounds in organic and conventional peaches and pears established that an improvement in the antioxidant defence system of the plants occurred as a consequence of organic cultivation practices [9]. This is likely to exert protection against fruit damage when grown in the absence of pesticides. Hence organic agriculture, which eliminates the routine use of synthetic pesticides and chemical fertilisers, could create conditions favourable to the production of health-enhancing plant phenolics.

These and many other health benefits of organic foods have been brought to the attention of the UK government [10, 11]. Among the issues raised are the hidden costs of conventional agriculture, which are not factored into the price. If hidden costs were taken into account, conventionally produced food would prove more expensive than organic food. For example, avoidance of the BSE epidemic through organic farming would have saved £4.5 billion. No animal born and raised on an organic farm developed BSE in the UK.

   Heaton S. Organic farming, food quality and human health: A review of the evidence, Bristol: Soil Association 2001.
   Tielemans E, van Kooij E, te Velde ER, Burdorf A and Heederik D. 'Pesticide exposure and decreased fertilisation rates in vitro', The Lancet 1999, 354, 484-485.
   Abell A, Ersnt E and Bonde JP. 'High sperm density among members of organic farmers' association', The Lancet 1994, 343, 1498.
   Jensen TK, Giwercman A, Carlsen E, Scheike T and Skakkebaek NE. 'Semen quality among members of organic food associations in Zealand, Denmark', The Lancet 1996, 347, 1844.
   Curl CL, Fenske RA and Elgethun K. 'Organophosphorus pesticide exposure of urban and suburban preschool children with organic and conventional diets', Environmental Health Perspectives 2003, 111(3), 377-382.
   Worthington V. 'Nutritional quality of organic versus conventional fruits, vegetables, and grains', The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine 2001, 7(2), 161-173.
   Asami DK, Hong YJ, Barrett DM and Mitchell AE. Comparison of the total phenolic and ascorbic acid content of freeze-dried and air-dried marionberry, strawberry, and corn grown using conventional, organic, and sustainable agricultural practices, J. Agric. Food Chem. 2003, 51(5), 1237-1241, 10.1021/jf020635c S0021-8561.
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What farmers of the past have done is to take 5 packs of playing cards and to bias the decks so that a more desirable hand is the result.  They did not create new "kinds" of cards, like 11's, 12's, and Chambermaids.  What farmers MIGHT justifiably be accused of is enforcing incest in the reproductive process.  Fortunately for them, the Creator's commands regarding human sexual reproduction with family do not apply to animals.

What scientists are doing with GM foods is akin to holding up a hand (in a card game) where one of the cards is a tiddly-wink, another is the hat piece from a Monopoly board and another is a Knight, snatched from a promising Check-Mate.  You can't expect to win a game of Poker with that sort of hand.

All pre-GM corn had two parents that were pre-GM corns.  A backwards time-traveler could have ultimately traced the parentage back to some natural corn type.  A farmer never put a pig into a pen with a stalk of corn or a tomato and said, "Now breed!"

IF we had the prescient knowledge of the Creator, we would be justified in splicing together the genes of two different "kinds" of creation, as He has made us co-creators in just about all other areas.  We do NOT have that knowledge, so we will reap what we sow.  Woe to us.

--Uziyahu

Oh, you can add this, too...

"May YHWH our Mighty One curse every scientist mixing 'kinds' with the worst of these plagues he has created."

After all, if THEY do not know better, who would? 

Uzi

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